1 00:00:05,030 --> 00:00:03,030 all right good afternoon everybody 2 00:00:06,389 --> 00:00:05,040 um as elena said my name is doug litigan 3 00:00:08,070 --> 00:00:06,399 and i'm an engineer in the structural 4 00:00:10,310 --> 00:00:08,080 engineering division which is right next 5 00:00:12,629 --> 00:00:10,320 door here in building 13. 6 00:00:13,990 --> 00:00:12,639 i started at jsc about five years ago 7 00:00:15,110 --> 00:00:14,000 and back then it was a very exciting 8 00:00:16,630 --> 00:00:15,120 time 9 00:00:18,630 --> 00:00:16,640 the space shuttle program was ending and 10 00:00:20,390 --> 00:00:18,640 we had a bright eyed future going back 11 00:00:21,990 --> 00:00:20,400 to the moon and on to mars 12 00:00:25,029 --> 00:00:22,000 i started looking around and i saw a lot 13 00:00:26,470 --> 00:00:25,039 of cool projects i saw lunar landers 14 00:00:27,990 --> 00:00:26,480 lunar rovers 15 00:00:29,830 --> 00:00:28,000 some cool habitats 16 00:00:31,029 --> 00:00:29,840 there was something that i saw common in 17 00:00:31,990 --> 00:00:31,039 all these things that kind of concerned 18 00:00:38,950 --> 00:00:32,000 me 19 00:00:40,709 --> 00:00:38,960 everyone was still building things out 20 00:00:42,470 --> 00:00:40,719 of metal and yeah i'm talking about 21 00:00:44,630 --> 00:00:42,480 aluminum and steel and titanium and 22 00:00:46,869 --> 00:00:44,640 metallic structures and i know that the 23 00:00:48,389 --> 00:00:46,879 space program has been built on metallic 24 00:00:50,790 --> 00:00:48,399 structures 25 00:00:52,150 --> 00:00:50,800 but we're trying to go beyond low earth 26 00:00:54,229 --> 00:00:52,160 orbit we're trying to go to places we've 27 00:00:55,510 --> 00:00:54,239 never been before in order to do that we 28 00:00:57,270 --> 00:00:55,520 have to do things that we've never been 29 00:00:58,389 --> 00:00:57,280 before 30 00:00:59,830 --> 00:00:58,399 and so 31 00:01:01,990 --> 00:00:59,840 we need to do some other things so i 32 00:01:03,990 --> 00:01:02,000 started to steer my career away from 33 00:01:05,509 --> 00:01:04,000 metals i started looking at composites 34 00:01:06,710 --> 00:01:05,519 and fabric structures 35 00:01:09,109 --> 00:01:06,720 and these are the things that we need to 36 00:01:11,030 --> 00:01:09,119 do we need to innovate we need to change 37 00:01:12,789 --> 00:01:11,040 we need to get out of our comfort zone 38 00:01:15,590 --> 00:01:12,799 and try new things so we need to try 39 00:01:21,190 --> 00:01:15,600 some things like inflatables 40 00:01:24,950 --> 00:01:23,190 this beach ball for example is an 41 00:01:27,270 --> 00:01:24,960 inflatable structure you've seen this 42 00:01:29,270 --> 00:01:27,280 before you've seen a lot of other things 43 00:01:32,149 --> 00:01:29,280 similar to this like rafts air 44 00:01:33,510 --> 00:01:32,159 mattresses party balloons 45 00:01:34,870 --> 00:01:33,520 these are all considered inflatable 46 00:01:37,429 --> 00:01:34,880 structures 47 00:01:39,429 --> 00:01:37,439 in essence they're a massive material 48 00:01:41,830 --> 00:01:39,439 and then they get inflated and they grow 49 00:01:44,310 --> 00:01:41,840 into a larger volume and they occupy the 50 00:01:46,710 --> 00:01:44,320 space that they've been designed for 51 00:01:48,870 --> 00:01:46,720 this beach ball however is considered a 52 00:01:50,389 --> 00:01:48,880 low strength inflatable structure much 53 00:01:52,710 --> 00:01:50,399 like all the other materials and 54 00:01:53,990 --> 00:01:52,720 inflatables that you see on earth 55 00:01:56,069 --> 00:01:54,000 what that means is it takes a low 56 00:01:57,749 --> 00:01:56,079 pressure to inflate this 57 00:02:00,389 --> 00:01:57,759 and because of that low pressure it has 58 00:02:02,870 --> 00:02:00,399 only one layer of material on it this 59 00:02:04,950 --> 00:02:02,880 layer of material is both a gas barrier 60 00:02:06,709 --> 00:02:04,960 and a structural layer because it has a 61 00:02:08,869 --> 00:02:06,719 low pressure it doesn't need a very high 62 00:02:10,630 --> 00:02:08,879 structural layer but we all know from 63 00:02:12,869 --> 00:02:10,640 experience that things these things are 64 00:02:14,949 --> 00:02:12,879 very fragile they tend to break they 65 00:02:16,630 --> 00:02:14,959 tend to pop they tend to rip and they're 66 00:02:18,229 --> 00:02:16,640 very dangerous 67 00:02:19,350 --> 00:02:18,239 so if i say that i'm going to take this 68 00:02:20,869 --> 00:02:19,360 and i'm going to put it into space and i 69 00:02:22,710 --> 00:02:20,879 want you to live inside of it you're 70 00:02:24,710 --> 00:02:22,720 probably not going to want to do it 71 00:02:27,670 --> 00:02:24,720 but our space structures our space 72 00:02:29,110 --> 00:02:27,680 balloons if you will are not like this 73 00:02:30,550 --> 00:02:29,120 okay we have 74 00:02:32,309 --> 00:02:30,560 numerous layers of protection on the 75 00:02:35,030 --> 00:02:32,319 outside of our balloons that make them 76 00:02:36,550 --> 00:02:35,040 virtually bulletproof 77 00:02:38,550 --> 00:02:36,560 one of the other advantages of our space 78 00:02:41,190 --> 00:02:38,560 structures just like this balloon is 79 00:02:43,509 --> 00:02:41,200 that it can be compressed and compact it 80 00:02:46,070 --> 00:02:43,519 can be fit into a small launch shroud 81 00:02:50,949 --> 00:02:46,080 launched into space and inflated to over 82 00:02:55,430 --> 00:02:53,430 additionally 83 00:02:57,110 --> 00:02:55,440 when we launch an inflatable structure 84 00:02:59,990 --> 00:02:57,120 for the same cost that we can launch a 85 00:03:01,750 --> 00:03:00,000 metallic structure we can get over three 86 00:03:03,750 --> 00:03:01,760 times the volume 87 00:03:04,790 --> 00:03:03,760 that's the same price to launch a 88 00:03:05,990 --> 00:03:04,800 vehicle 89 00:03:07,509 --> 00:03:06,000 instead of a metallic structure you can 90 00:03:08,550 --> 00:03:07,519 launch an inflatable and get three times 91 00:03:10,229 --> 00:03:08,560 the volume 92 00:03:12,070 --> 00:03:10,239 and i want i want you to visualize this 93 00:03:14,070 --> 00:03:12,080 because this is very important so i have 94 00:03:17,110 --> 00:03:14,080 some friends in the second and third 95 00:03:18,710 --> 00:03:17,120 rows if you guys can come up right now 96 00:03:20,949 --> 00:03:18,720 we're gonna do a little demonstration i 97 00:03:22,070 --> 00:03:20,959 need six of you so ron and doug you can 98 00:03:26,309 --> 00:03:22,080 come as well 99 00:03:29,430 --> 00:03:27,430 so there's these 100 00:03:30,789 --> 00:03:29,440 marks on the ground everyone just stand 101 00:03:32,390 --> 00:03:30,799 on one of them 102 00:03:33,830 --> 00:03:32,400 there should be six of them there's one 103 00:03:35,830 --> 00:03:33,840 way over there 104 00:03:38,869 --> 00:03:35,840 and there's one way back there 105 00:03:40,229 --> 00:03:38,879 kelly you can do that one on the front 106 00:03:41,270 --> 00:03:40,239 so what i've done here is i have six 107 00:03:42,390 --> 00:03:41,280 people 108 00:03:43,750 --> 00:03:42,400 and i divided them up into three 109 00:03:45,910 --> 00:03:43,760 different crews they're all going to 110 00:03:47,589 --> 00:03:45,920 mars okay the first crew over here on 111 00:03:49,990 --> 00:03:47,599 the left they're standing in a triangle 112 00:03:51,910 --> 00:03:50,000 can you sit on this triangle 113 00:03:53,830 --> 00:03:51,920 that's me that's you 114 00:03:55,670 --> 00:03:53,840 so the first crew here on the left 115 00:03:57,750 --> 00:03:55,680 standing in this triangle the space in 116 00:04:00,710 --> 00:03:57,760 between these three people represents 117 00:04:02,070 --> 00:04:00,720 the volume of a typical capsule design 118 00:04:03,670 --> 00:04:02,080 something you've probably seen before 119 00:04:05,190 --> 00:04:03,680 it's going to take us to mars or take us 120 00:04:06,789 --> 00:04:05,200 to the moon 121 00:04:07,830 --> 00:04:06,799 and this this is the habitable volume 122 00:04:09,750 --> 00:04:07,840 that they have to work with on their 123 00:04:11,910 --> 00:04:09,760 journey to mars 124 00:04:13,110 --> 00:04:11,920 now this triangle over here and these 125 00:04:14,869 --> 00:04:13,120 three crew members are also going to 126 00:04:16,870 --> 00:04:14,879 mars but they are living in an 127 00:04:18,069 --> 00:04:16,880 inflatable structure this inflatable 128 00:04:19,509 --> 00:04:18,079 structure has 129 00:04:20,870 --> 00:04:19,519 what you see here is just three times 130 00:04:22,469 --> 00:04:20,880 the volume but it can be a lot more 131 00:04:24,150 --> 00:04:22,479 depending on the design 132 00:04:26,629 --> 00:04:24,160 so you can see here 133 00:04:28,870 --> 00:04:26,639 pretty obviously which vehicle would you 134 00:04:30,710 --> 00:04:28,880 rather take to mars 135 00:04:32,230 --> 00:04:30,720 this one you're right all right you guys 136 00:04:37,990 --> 00:04:32,240 can get sit back down 137 00:04:40,950 --> 00:04:39,590 so you're probably wondering you know 138 00:04:42,710 --> 00:04:40,960 like what's the catch 139 00:04:45,510 --> 00:04:42,720 why haven't we done this before this 140 00:04:46,950 --> 00:04:45,520 looks awesome it's amazing let's throw a 141 00:04:48,550 --> 00:04:46,960 bunch of money at it and let's build an 142 00:04:49,830 --> 00:04:48,560 inflatable structure 143 00:04:51,830 --> 00:04:49,840 but one of the big problems with 144 00:04:52,950 --> 00:04:51,840 inflatables is that a lot of people are 145 00:04:54,870 --> 00:04:52,960 afraid of them 146 00:04:56,870 --> 00:04:54,880 as i mentioned before you put a balloon 147 00:04:58,310 --> 00:04:56,880 in space it sounds scary 148 00:04:59,270 --> 00:04:58,320 um i talked to a lot of kids about this 149 00:05:00,870 --> 00:04:59,280 and i tell them that we're going to put 150 00:05:02,550 --> 00:05:00,880 balloons in space and they get a lot of 151 00:05:04,390 --> 00:05:02,560 concerned faces 152 00:05:06,469 --> 00:05:04,400 because of the same reasons they know 153 00:05:08,070 --> 00:05:06,479 that balloons pop i know that you know 154 00:05:09,590 --> 00:05:08,080 that but the balloons that we have on 155 00:05:11,830 --> 00:05:09,600 earth are not the same types of balloons 156 00:05:13,430 --> 00:05:11,840 that we're putting in space 157 00:05:15,110 --> 00:05:13,440 for example 158 00:05:16,629 --> 00:05:15,120 this balloon like i said has a single 159 00:05:23,430 --> 00:05:16,639 gas barrier 160 00:05:25,670 --> 00:05:23,440 resilient to cold temperatures 161 00:05:26,790 --> 00:05:25,680 it can be flexed multiple times without 162 00:05:29,110 --> 00:05:26,800 breaking 163 00:05:30,390 --> 00:05:29,120 we also have redundant barriers 164 00:05:31,830 --> 00:05:30,400 and it could be 165 00:05:34,310 --> 00:05:31,840 made of self-healing materials so if 166 00:05:35,990 --> 00:05:34,320 there is a pinhole break or a leak it 167 00:05:37,909 --> 00:05:36,000 can heal itself 168 00:05:40,150 --> 00:05:37,919 now outside of that gas barrier there's 169 00:05:41,430 --> 00:05:40,160 also a main structural layer because our 170 00:05:42,790 --> 00:05:41,440 inflatables are high strength 171 00:05:44,550 --> 00:05:42,800 inflatables they have a high pressure on 172 00:05:45,909 --> 00:05:44,560 the inside thanks to the vacuum of space 173 00:05:47,749 --> 00:05:45,919 that's on the outside 174 00:05:49,189 --> 00:05:47,759 so we have a big structural layer that's 175 00:05:51,110 --> 00:05:49,199 made of the same material that you make 176 00:05:53,510 --> 00:05:51,120 bulletproof vest out of it is 177 00:05:55,029 --> 00:05:53,520 bulletproof and it's strong and it's 178 00:05:56,230 --> 00:05:55,039 very stiff 179 00:05:58,230 --> 00:05:56,240 and those are the main two layers 180 00:05:59,830 --> 00:05:58,240 structural layer the gas barrier but 181 00:06:01,430 --> 00:05:59,840 outside of that we have a space 182 00:06:03,590 --> 00:06:01,440 environment that's very dangerous and 183 00:06:05,189 --> 00:06:03,600 very scary and so we have a shell on the 184 00:06:07,029 --> 00:06:05,199 outside of those layers that helps us 185 00:06:09,189 --> 00:06:07,039 protect that protects us from that space 186 00:06:11,029 --> 00:06:09,199 environment for example that shell has 187 00:06:13,189 --> 00:06:11,039 atomic oxygen protection 188 00:06:14,629 --> 00:06:13,199 it's got thermal insulation and it has 189 00:06:17,270 --> 00:06:14,639 multiple layers of micro meteorite 190 00:06:18,950 --> 00:06:17,280 orbital debris protection or mmod 191 00:06:21,270 --> 00:06:18,960 mmod is probably the biggest or the 192 00:06:22,950 --> 00:06:21,280 scariest thing with inflatables but the 193 00:06:26,710 --> 00:06:22,960 mmod shield that we've created for our 194 00:06:29,830 --> 00:06:26,720 inflatable has outperformed the iss mmod 195 00:06:30,870 --> 00:06:29,840 shields in hypervelocity impact testing 196 00:06:33,110 --> 00:06:30,880 so 197 00:06:35,830 --> 00:06:33,120 our inflatable balloon 198 00:06:38,710 --> 00:06:35,840 is actually better prepared for mmod 199 00:06:40,870 --> 00:06:38,720 impacts than the current iss metallic 200 00:06:43,590 --> 00:06:40,880 shields 201 00:06:46,550 --> 00:06:43,600 so one of the other beauties of this 202 00:06:48,230 --> 00:06:46,560 structure and of inflatable structures 203 00:06:49,990 --> 00:06:48,240 is that they can be formed into a 204 00:06:51,830 --> 00:06:50,000 variety of different shapes 205 00:06:53,270 --> 00:06:51,840 they can be used as a long-term transit 206 00:06:55,029 --> 00:06:53,280 vehicle to mars 207 00:06:57,029 --> 00:06:55,039 they can be used as a surface habitat on 208 00:06:58,390 --> 00:06:57,039 the moon or on mars 209 00:06:59,990 --> 00:06:58,400 this isn't the first time that we 210 00:07:01,990 --> 00:07:00,000 thought about this 211 00:07:04,309 --> 00:07:02,000 nasa first investigated inflatable 212 00:07:06,469 --> 00:07:04,319 structures back in 1961 eight years 213 00:07:08,790 --> 00:07:06,479 before we went to the moon 214 00:07:10,469 --> 00:07:08,800 in fact the first ever eva was performed 215 00:07:13,749 --> 00:07:10,479 by the russians and it used an 216 00:07:15,909 --> 00:07:13,759 inflatable airlock 217 00:07:17,909 --> 00:07:15,919 this picture is from 1989 it was a 218 00:07:19,909 --> 00:07:17,919 design concept for inflatable lunar 219 00:07:22,070 --> 00:07:19,919 habitat 220 00:07:23,670 --> 00:07:22,080 most recently back in the late 90s 221 00:07:25,510 --> 00:07:23,680 was a big project here at jc called 222 00:07:26,550 --> 00:07:25,520 transhab most of you probably heard of 223 00:07:27,670 --> 00:07:26,560 it 224 00:07:31,589 --> 00:07:27,680 transhab 225 00:07:33,270 --> 00:07:31,599 was essentially the birth of common or 226 00:07:35,189 --> 00:07:33,280 today's design 227 00:07:37,110 --> 00:07:35,199 for inflatable structures 228 00:07:38,469 --> 00:07:37,120 they invented a lot of new technology 229 00:07:40,629 --> 00:07:38,479 mainly because they finally had the 230 00:07:43,510 --> 00:07:40,639 materials required to build these high 231 00:07:45,670 --> 00:07:43,520 strength inflatables 232 00:07:47,830 --> 00:07:45,680 one transhab module was designed to fit 233 00:07:49,110 --> 00:07:47,840 in the payload bay of the space shuttle 234 00:07:50,950 --> 00:07:49,120 it was intended to be birthed to the 235 00:07:53,189 --> 00:07:50,960 international space station and it will 236 00:07:55,670 --> 00:07:53,199 provide 1500 square feet of livable 237 00:07:57,270 --> 00:07:55,680 space in one module that's about half 238 00:07:59,510 --> 00:07:57,280 the livable space of the entire space 239 00:08:01,589 --> 00:07:59,520 station 240 00:08:04,309 --> 00:08:01,599 now after transhab a technology was 241 00:08:06,309 --> 00:08:04,319 taken and used by nasa to advance 242 00:08:08,390 --> 00:08:06,319 it was also used by bigelow aerospace to 243 00:08:11,110 --> 00:08:08,400 work on inflatable structures 244 00:08:12,390 --> 00:08:11,120 and this year 2015 we will put the first 245 00:08:14,070 --> 00:08:12,400 inflatable module 246 00:08:16,230 --> 00:08:14,080 on the iss 247 00:08:18,550 --> 00:08:16,240 this new module known as beam will be a 248 00:08:20,150 --> 00:08:18,560 significant demonstration and advocacy 249 00:08:22,230 --> 00:08:20,160 towards the future use of inflatable 250 00:08:23,749 --> 00:08:22,240 structures 251 00:08:29,029 --> 00:08:23,759 it will be the beginning of a new 252 00:08:34,469 --> 00:08:31,909 so besides those uses there are also a 253 00:08:36,389 --> 00:08:34,479 number of other potential applications 254 00:08:38,070 --> 00:08:36,399 for inflatables 255 00:08:39,029 --> 00:08:38,080 i hope you've got your mind thinking a 256 00:08:41,509 --> 00:08:39,039 little bit 257 00:08:44,070 --> 00:08:41,519 we can have this very large very strong 258 00:08:45,350 --> 00:08:44,080 structure and it can be compressed you 259 00:08:47,590 --> 00:08:45,360 could fit something in a suitcase and 260 00:08:50,550 --> 00:08:47,600 then open it up and have a large volume 261 00:08:51,829 --> 00:08:50,560 there's a lot of potential applications 262 00:08:53,590 --> 00:08:51,839 some of those applications are used in 263 00:08:55,990 --> 00:08:53,600 space some of them are being used now 264 00:08:58,470 --> 00:08:56,000 for new technologies and a lot even more 265 00:09:00,230 --> 00:08:58,480 applications that can be used on earth 266 00:09:02,710 --> 00:09:00,240 some of the space applications you may 267 00:09:03,670 --> 00:09:02,720 have heard of is like a deployable solar 268 00:09:07,030 --> 00:09:03,680 sail 269 00:09:09,509 --> 00:09:07,040 a deployable antenna 270 00:09:10,790 --> 00:09:09,519 hypersonic decelerator that's also 271 00:09:12,550 --> 00:09:10,800 deployable 272 00:09:15,350 --> 00:09:12,560 and i know you've heard of spacesuits 273 00:09:17,110 --> 00:09:15,360 spacesuit is a life-saving example of an 274 00:09:18,790 --> 00:09:17,120 inflatable structure 275 00:09:20,710 --> 00:09:18,800 it's a fabric structure that takes its 276 00:09:22,710 --> 00:09:20,720 shape when it's pressurized it's the 277 00:09:24,389 --> 00:09:22,720 definition of inflatable 278 00:09:26,389 --> 00:09:24,399 there's also a lot of applications on 279 00:09:28,310 --> 00:09:26,399 earth for inflatables 280 00:09:30,470 --> 00:09:28,320 so inflatables could be used for example 281 00:09:32,949 --> 00:09:30,480 as a fuel collection device or storage 282 00:09:34,710 --> 00:09:32,959 device to prevent or to clean up an oil 283 00:09:36,870 --> 00:09:34,720 spill offshore 284 00:09:39,110 --> 00:09:36,880 they could be used as a emergency 285 00:09:41,750 --> 00:09:39,120 hyperbaric chamber you're a deepsea 286 00:09:43,190 --> 00:09:41,760 diver and you were on a ship you did a 287 00:09:44,949 --> 00:09:43,200 dive you came up too fast and you need a 288 00:09:47,030 --> 00:09:44,959 hyperbaric chamber and you're far away 289 00:09:48,550 --> 00:09:47,040 from any medical attention 290 00:09:50,790 --> 00:09:48,560 the ship doesn't have a hyperbaric 291 00:09:52,949 --> 00:09:50,800 chamber but we have an inflatable one 292 00:09:54,870 --> 00:09:52,959 it's been compact into a bag and now we 293 00:09:57,430 --> 00:09:54,880 can inflate it open it up and it can be 294 00:09:59,509 --> 00:09:57,440 used to save your life 295 00:10:01,269 --> 00:09:59,519 this technology can also be used 296 00:10:02,550 --> 00:10:01,279 under extreme conditions and extreme 297 00:10:03,590 --> 00:10:02,560 environments 298 00:10:06,790 --> 00:10:03,600 it could be 299 00:10:08,870 --> 00:10:06,800 used as a safety shelter in antarctica 300 00:10:10,949 --> 00:10:08,880 it could potentially be used 301 00:10:12,949 --> 00:10:10,959 as a shelter for firemen who are caught 302 00:10:14,550 --> 00:10:12,959 in a wildfire 303 00:10:16,230 --> 00:10:14,560 it could also be used as a quick 304 00:10:17,509 --> 00:10:16,240 deployed shelter during a natural 305 00:10:18,630 --> 00:10:17,519 disaster 306 00:10:21,509 --> 00:10:18,640 in fact 307 00:10:23,110 --> 00:10:21,519 during hurricane sandy a few years ago 308 00:10:24,870 --> 00:10:23,120 most of the new york city subway tunnels 309 00:10:26,870 --> 00:10:24,880 became flooded with water 310 00:10:28,230 --> 00:10:26,880 this was a big problem for the city 311 00:10:30,470 --> 00:10:28,240 and since then 312 00:10:33,269 --> 00:10:30,480 the inflatable technology the same type 313 00:10:35,110 --> 00:10:33,279 of structural layer gas pair that we use 314 00:10:37,350 --> 00:10:35,120 that we've designed 315 00:10:39,030 --> 00:10:37,360 has been used and commercialized to 316 00:10:40,870 --> 00:10:39,040 build what's called a tunnel plug for 317 00:10:42,630 --> 00:10:40,880 the new york city subway system 318 00:10:45,750 --> 00:10:42,640 these devices 319 00:10:47,430 --> 00:10:45,760 like i said is a big mass of fabric 320 00:10:49,110 --> 00:10:47,440 it's packed up into a nice pretty 321 00:10:51,350 --> 00:10:49,120 package and then when needed it can be 322 00:10:53,110 --> 00:10:51,360 deployed fill up and plug a subway 323 00:10:55,190 --> 00:10:53,120 tunnel this is an excellent 324 00:10:56,949 --> 00:10:55,200 commercialization use of inflatable 325 00:10:58,949 --> 00:10:56,959 technology 326 00:11:00,870 --> 00:10:58,959 these are just a few things 327 00:11:02,790 --> 00:11:00,880 that i know about i'm hoping that you 328 00:11:04,310 --> 00:11:02,800 guys can think about some more and think 329 00:11:06,150 --> 00:11:04,320 about some future potential applications 330 00:11:07,910 --> 00:11:06,160 that we can use for inflatables 331 00:11:09,829 --> 00:11:07,920 they truly can be a life-saving 332 00:11:12,550 --> 00:11:09,839 technology 333 00:11:14,310 --> 00:11:12,560 so as i close today this was a very 334 00:11:16,069 --> 00:11:14,320 brief overview but i hope it got you 335 00:11:17,829 --> 00:11:16,079 thinking and i want to reiterate the 336 00:11:20,150 --> 00:11:17,839 point that this is very important 337 00:11:23,430 --> 00:11:20,160 you know we want to explore 338 00:11:25,430 --> 00:11:23,440 i want my kids to see mars one day 339 00:11:26,389 --> 00:11:25,440 and we can't get to mars with metallic 340 00:11:28,550 --> 00:11:26,399 structures 341 00:11:30,389 --> 00:11:28,560 we need to get out of our comfort zone